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IT’S COMPLICATED

UNTANGLING YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR PHONE

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Time To Log Off’s digital detox podcast series It’s Complicated launched in 2019 and was selected by iTunes as one of its ‘New & Noteworthy’ podcasts in its first month of launch. The podcast features one-to-one interviews with high profile individuals from the worlds of media, health, business and art, as well as academics, experts and researchers talking candidly about their phone habits, sharing research on tech habits and swapping tips and tricks on getting a more screen-balanced life.

Series Two launched 9th July 2019. Series Three launched 2nd March 2020. Series Four launched 28th June 2020. Series Five launched 19th October 2020. Series Six launched 15th February 2021. Series Seven launched 25th April 2022.

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S7 Episode Eight: The Folding Lady TikTok sensation The Folding Lady (aka Sophie Liard) joins us to chat about her meteoric rise to internet stardom in stardom in lockdown. Now with over 4 mill followers, she shares how she curates her own social media experience to be positive and inspiring and how she make sure she’s keeping it real for her own fans.

S7 Episode Seven: Jack Rhysider Host of the Darknet Diaries podcast, cybersecurity veteran Jack Rhysider joins us to tell us how to keep ourselves safe online. From the threats of ‘sim swapping’ attacks to how social engineers can manipulate us to help them commit crimes, this episode is packed with fascinating detail.

S7 Episode Six: Michelle and Joan MacDonald A baby boomer fitness influencer at 76, Joan MacDonald set about learning new skills – in fitness and in tech – at 70. It was daughter Michelle who coached her every step of the way. An inspiring episode about using technology to motivate and change lives.

S7 Episode Five: Silkie Carlo Director of NGO Big Brother Watch, Silkie joins us to tell us what we need to know about facial recognition tech – where and how it’s being used and what we should worry about.

S7 Episode Four: Tim Spector Professor Tim Spector joins us to talk about what ‘community science’ looks like and the huge success of his Covid-19 Symptom Study App, downloaded by nearly 5 million UK users, which changed our understanding of coronavirus and is the world’s largest ongoing study into the disease.

S7 Episode Three: Michelle Elman Author, broadcaster and life-coach Michelle Elman is on a mission to teach us all how to set better boundaries. She joins us to chat about what that looks like online – from handling the 24:7 email culture, to dealing with ghosting and sending better texts.

S7 Episode Two: Max Benwell Journalist Max Benwell found himself caught up in a catfisher’s games in rather an unusual way. He chats to Tanya about how he tracked the catfisher down, what he learned about catfishing in the process and how it’s changed his relationship with tech.

S7 Episode One: Rory Cellan-Jones  Former BBC Technology Correspondent Rory joins us to launch Series Seven, talking about the highs and lows of the smartphone revolution. The tech titans who inspired him and those who gave him pause for thought, his optimism about the new era of health tech, and how UK Twitter helped find his dog-knapped dog in lockdown London.

S6 Episode Nine: Vex King Vex returns as It’s Complicated’s first ever returning guest; to talk about his new book Healing is the New High and to tell us how healing ourselves from pain and trauma – developing better self-awareness as a result – is going to help all of us develop a healthier, happier, relationship with social media and the digital world.

S6 Episode Eight: Cori Crider Lawyer and activist Cori Crider, Co-Founder of non-profit Foxglove, is holding Big Tech to account: for their treatment of their own workers – social media and the digital world’s factory floor. Find out how Foxglove is making tech accountable and fighting for fair pay and working conditions for the workers that have been overlooked for far too long.

S6 Episode Seven: Marisa Bate Journalist Marisa Bate gave up Instagram five years ago after she started to question what she was getting out of it. The experience has been entirely positive, even though she works in the media where many say it’s impossible to be without social media. We talk about the navel-gazing and self absorption that Instagram encourages and how, even in a pandemic, those traits just don’t seem to have lessened.

S6 Episode Six: Craig Newmark US billionaire entrepreneur and philanthropist Craig Newmark, the founder of Craigslist, joins us to talk about the founding of Craigslist in 1995 and why his philanthropy is focused now on cleaning up disinformation online, and supporting trustworthy journalism in the fight back against information warfare.

S6 Episode Five: Pat Allerton Vicar of St Peter’s Notting Hill in London, Pat chats about how his cycling services brought a hymn and a prayer to lockdown London and earned him the name the ‘portable priest’. And we discuss faith both on and off screens in this episode looking at the search for community, connection and meaning.

S6 Episode Four: Amika George British campaigner and activist against period poverty in the UK, through her Free Periods charity, Amika talks about how she has harnessed the power of social media for good to make real change in the world, and how she has personal strategies in place to make sure she doesn’t fall prey to some of the darker aspects of the digital world.

S6 Episode Three: Tim Harford The economist, broadcaster and author is on the podcast to help us cut through the noise of statistics being weaponised on social media and show us how to read them clearly and calmly to make sense of what’s happening in the world.

S6 Episode Two: Martha Lane Fox The second episode in Series Two, Martha talks about the shocking digital inequalities the pandemic has exposed, what need to happen to eliminate the digital divide, and reflects on her trail blazing digital career over the past quarter of a century in the UK.

S6 Episode One: Andrew Cotter Launching the new series, sports broadcaster Andrew talks about the viral lockdown videos that made his two labradors, Olive and Mabel, globally famous with 80 million+ downloads to date, the pressure to keep producing content for their worldwide fans, and his love-hate relationship with the digital world.

S5 Episode Seven: John Barnes Iconic Liverpool and England footballer John Barnes, closes out the series with a chat about discrimination on and off the pitch, using Twitter to call out racism, and how young millionaire footballers could be using their huge social media platforms more to affect real change in their communities.

S5 Episode Six: Money and Tech with Anne Boden Founder and CEO of Starling Bank, Anne joins us to talk about how tech is changing our relationship with money, making it far less complicated. And how she’s calling out the financial inequality that extends far beyond the gender pay gap.

S5 Episode Five: Finn Beales Photographer Finn joins us on the 10th anniversary of his first Instagram post to talk about his relationship with social media, his career as a photographer; and why instead of downloading another yet another mindfulness app, we’d be much better off just going outside for a walk.

S5 Episode Four: Emily Cummin on Grief and Loss Online CEO and co-Founder of Untangle, the social network for mourners, joins us to talk about why we don’t want to talk about death and why it’s so important that we do. And she discusses all the digital legacies we may leave behind and how we can make our wishes about those clear.

S5 Episode Three: Laura Bates on Misogyny Online Author and journalist Laura Bates talks about the research behind her latest book into extreme online communities focused around misogyny – and the devastating offline impact they have. And she shares about her own experiences of being targeted for abuse online after her founding of the Everyday Sexism project.

S5 Episode Two: Toby Young on Cancel Culture Author and journalist Toby Young talks about his personal experience of being ‘cancelled’ online in 2018, free speech, ‘Twitchfork’ mobs, ‘offence archaeology’ and his views on the impossibility of having civil debate and disagreement online

S5 Episode One: Amy Hart on Digital Detox Love Island’s Amy Hart and YouTuber Mimi Missfit took seven teens on a week-long digital detox to find out what impact being without their tech might have on their mental health. The results were astounding, and the impact was long-lasting as the episode will reveal. Tanya also chats to Amy about her own experiences on social media and how she deals with trolls.

S4 Episode Ten: Racism online with Charlie Brinkhurst-Cuff Does the digital world just reflect back to us the world we have, or is there something about social media platforms in particular that create a breeding ground for racist behaviour? We’re joined for the last episode of S4 by Charlie Brinkhurst-Cuff, head of editorial at gal-dem; journalist, editor, features writer, columnist and creative with focuses on investigations, race, youth culture and social politics. Charlie is also editor of the book Mother Country: Real Stories of the Windrush Children,

S4 Episode Nine: Women and tech with Prof Sue Black OBE Why is the relationship between women and technology so complicated? Why are women’s historic contributions so often hidden from history? And how can we get more women and girls choosing it as a career? An inspiring chat with the incredible Sue Black, including the fascinating story of how she used new tech to save old tech, at the home of the WWII code breakers at Bletchley Park.

S4 Episode Eight: Sleep and screens with Dr Guy Leschziner What’s the truth about sleep and screens? Are our nocturnal sleep habits turning us into a national of insomniacs? Is it blue light that’s the culprit or is something else stopping us nodding off? Tips and techniques to ensure a good night’s sleep all in this episode from the expert.

S4 Episode Seven: Clicktivism with Athena Kugblenu If we care about a cause and want to be activists, is clicktivism the way? Should we be posting, tweeting and rallying around hashtags? Or is political activism online meaningless? Stand-up comedian, broadcaster and writer Athena Kugblenu joins us to talk about clicktivism, comedy and celebrity culture.

S4 Episode Six: Making Better Connections Professor Juliana Shroeder joins us to talk about all the ways in which technology impacts how we communicate, and make connections. From email to video chat to hiding behind our phones, her fascinating research gives us clear clues on what we need to be doing more of right now to build relationships.

S4 Episode Five: Jack Edwards and Vee Kativhu on The Study Tube Project Hugely successful YouTubers Jack and Vee, part of the burgeoning ‘StudyTube’ community, join us to talk about how they created an education lifeline for their hundreds of thousand of young followers stuck at home during the pandemic. And they did it while studying for their own Final exams at university this summer.

S4 Episode Four: Emily Bell on Fake News Director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism, Emily joins us to chat about what the tech industry is doing to the news industry and what we can all do to get the news we need online.

S4 Episode Three: Memes and Mental Health Dave Tarnowski, founder of the hugely popular Nick Cave and the Bad Memes account, chats about memes and mental health and how his account has morphed into so much more than memes.

S4 Episode Two: Grace Beverley Fitness entrepreneur Grace, Founder and CEO of three multi-million pound businesses, a huge Instagram following, and still only 23, talks about how she puts boundaries in between her digital and off-screen life.

S4 Episode One: Pete Reed OBE Three times Olympic champion, rower Pete Reed, launches Series Four chatting about challenge, change and resilience and the athlete mindset which is helping him face his biggest challenge yet.

S3 Episode Nine: James McVey Lead guitarist with The Vamps and ‘I’m a Celebrity’ contestant talks about his relationship with social media and his work to support victims of online bullying through The Diana Award, in the last episode of Series Three.

S3 Episode Eight: Lauren Mahon Co host of the ‘You, Me & the Big C’ podcast chats about what her experience of living with cancer might teach us about how to survive lockdown

S3 Episode Seven: Tom Watson. The former Deputy Leader of the Labour Party talks this week in a special lockdown episode about what this unprecedented period of intimate isolation may mean for our relationship with tech.

S3 Episode Six: Seyi Akiwowo. Activist and campaigner Seyi talks to us this week about what we can all do to stem the uncontrollable tide of online abuse and learn to be better digital citizens along the way.

S3 Episode Five: Jamie Laing. TV presenter and celebrity Jamie chats on the podcast this week about how his relationship with social media has changed over the last ten years of being on one of Britain’s biggest reality TV shows; Made in Chelsea.

S3 Episode Four: Creating Community with Badass Cross Stitch. Founder of Badass Cross Stitch Sharon Downey sits down with Tanya to talk about using social media for good to connect communities across a physical divide.

S3 Episode Three: Seek Discomfort with Yes Theory’s Thomas Brag. YouTuber Thomas Brag talks about the inspiring group Yes Theory who encourage their subscribers to ‘seek discomfort’ and step out of their comfort zones to make meaningful real-life connections.

S3 Episode Two: Make Love Not Porn with Cindy Gallop. Social sex entrepreneur Cindy talks about why she believes online porn has become sex eduction by default, and why she’s pro-sex, pro-porn, pro-knowing the difference.

S3 Episode One: Dr Alex, ex-Love Island contestant and A&E doctor in a busy London hospital on the pressures on mental health of having a huge social media following.

S2 Episode Nine: Kristina Karlsson Founder of international lifestyle business kikki.k, Kristina talks on the digital detox podcast about how to juggle life as an entrepreneur whilst still getting a good work:life and tech:life balance.

S2 Episode Eight: Sextortion, Phishing and Fraud Ethical hacker Scott McGready tells us which phone habits are making us unsafe online, and offers some tips on how we can all protect ourselves from fraud.

S2 Episode Seven: Men and Mental Health Online with The Naked Professor Ben Bidwell talks about depictions of masculinity and positive male role models online on our digital detox podcast this week.

S2 Episode Six:Phone Habits and the Environment Kelsea Weber from global repair community iFixit, talks about what we can all do to counter the growing mountain of eWaste.

S2 Episode Five: Vybarr Cregan-Reid Professor Cregan-Reid joins us to talk about what our smartphone and tech habits are doing to our bodies.

S2 Episode Four: Justin McLeod on what smartphones have done to dating. The CEO of no-swipe dating app Hinge joins us to talk about swipe culture and why he built Hinge as the dating app designed to be deleted.

S2 Episode Three: Shahroo Izadi on making habit changes that last. Behavioural Change Specialist Shahroo joins us to talk about the secret behind developing, and sustaining, healthy habits and how to apply that to our phone habits.

S2 Episode Two: Vex King and Kaushal on screen:life balance as influencers. Influencer power couple Vex King and Kaushal join Tanya this week to talk about they get screen:life balance with their huge online followings of over 3 million between them, and how they’re using their platforms to give back.

S2 Bonus Episode: Behind the Podcast. Tanya Goodin is interviewed by lifestyle journalist, and self-confessed phone-addicted millennial, Rachel Hosie about how she, a digital entrepreneur for 20+ years, came to set-up Time to Log off and the ‘It’s Complicated’ digital detox podcast.

S2 Episode One Johann Hari. Tanya chats to New York Times best-selling author and TED speaker Johann about addiction, depression, anxiety and community and how we’re all looking for connection – but in the wrong places.

Series Two Trailer. A sneak preview of the guests and ideas we’ll be talking about in Series Two of the podcast which launches 9th July 2019.

Series One Trailer. A preview of the guests and subjects we’ll be tackling on the podcast, from how our phone habits affect our eating and our sex lives, to what we can do to get away from screens more often and how to model better digital habits for our children.

Episode One: Nikita Gill. Tanya Goodin is joined by poet, illustrator, designer and author Nikita Gill for the first episode of our new digital detox podcast series. Nikita, a poet with an Instagram following of more than half a million and with a whole host of celebrity followers, including Alanis Morissette, Nicole Richie and Khloé Kardashian, is one of the leading lights of a new breed of Insta poets who have revolutionised the way poetry is accessed and enjoyed; opening it up to an entirely new audience online through social media. Here she talks to Tanya about her complicated relationship with social media and her phone; trolling, the surprisingly analogue process of her creativity and the need for more kindness online. And as a special treat for our listeners, Nikita reads one of her poems, inspired by the online world.

Episode Two: Ben Fogle and Marina Fogle. Tanya Goodin is talking in this episode to award-winning explorer and UN Patron of the Wilderness Ben Fogle and parenting guru and author Marina Fogle about the challenges of parenting, and being a mindful partner, in the age of smartphones. Ben also reveals his love-hate relationship with Twitter.

Episode Three: Hannah Witton. Tanya chats in this episode to sex educator, author and YouTuber Hannah Witton about what our phones might be doing to our sex lives, why sexting isn’t all bad (in adult relationships) and why she’s instigating a bedroom phone ban.

Episode Four: Dan Kennedy. Tanya is joined in this episode by celebrity photographer Dan Kennedy who discusses what he’s learned throughout his career about the importance of maintaining focus in a permanently distracted world and how he has now designed his working life to minimise distraction and maximise productivity.

Episode Five: Alastair Humphreys. Adventurer and author Al Humphreys spent over four years cycling round the world, a journey of 46,000 miles through 60 countries and five continents. He’s also rowed the Atlantic, trekked the Arctic and taken on numerous other challenges and adventures including trekking 1,000 miles across the Empty Quarter desert and walking 120 miles round London’s M25. (One of his pioneering ‘microadventures’). Here he talks to Tanya about why we all need to get outside more and be more adventurous; how the rhythms of the day, and the cycles of nature, benefit us and why our smartphone habits might be responsible for keeping us inside now for 97% of our time.

Episode Six: Rhiannon Lambert. Harley Street Nutritionist and author Rhiannon Lambert joins Tanya on the digital detox podcast this week to talk about what our phone habits might be doing to our physical and mental health,. We chat about body dysmorphia and the comparison culture online and the importance of tuning in to our bodies to avoid disordered eating habits; and how mindlessly scrolling through our social media feeds might be interfering with really listening to what are bodies are telling us.

Episode Seven: Tim Lovejoy. Journalist and TV presenter Tim Lovejoy joins Tanya to chat about phone addiction and having a thin skin in a world of 24:7 celebrity culture, including what he said to Will.i.am when he started browsing his phone live on air and what strategies he’s had to put in place to get on top of his own news and phone addiction.

Episode Eight: Cal Newport. Professor and author Cal Newport joins Tanya for the final episode in this series of the digital detox podcast to talk about his philosophy of ‘digital minimalism’ and why he has never had a social media account.



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Our digital detox podcast talks to guests from all walks of life about how they manage the relationship with the tiny tyrant in their pocket - their smartphone - and offers tips and tricks to inspire and motivate listeners to get a better balance with tech.
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